Far Cry 5’s Joseph Seed is a bad guy, but all compared to other villains in the franchise, he has one odd redeeming quality: he was right. Vaas can elicit sympathy due to the abuses of his childhood, while Pagan Min is much more chaotic than anything else. At the end of the day, however likable they are as characters, they are clearly villains. InFar Cry 5’s story completion, as well asNew Dawn, Seed may come across more as “misunderstood” or “delusional,” but sympathetic ultimately because he predicted the Collapse.

Joseph Seed’s DLCputs players into his mind between the events ofFar Cry 5andNew Dawn, and it seems Ubisoft wanted to remove this “redeemable” aspect of his character—in the most uneasy way possible. InFar Cry 6’s Joseph Seed: Collapse DLC, there’s no sympathy garnered or redemption achieved for Seed, largely because of how he treats one specific character, Faith Seed, and what the Secret Ending does to that specific relationship.NOTE: This article contains sensitive topics related to the mistreatment of Faith Seed; read on with caution.

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Faith Seed in Far Cry 5

InFar Cry 5, she is one of Joseph’s Lieutenantsplayers must deal with before going after Seed himself. She manages Bliss production, leads the Angels, and is considered the Voice of the Father—something odd when considering Joseph Seed believes he hears the Voice of God. This symbolism is clear: just as God’s voice leads him, his own voice is set to lead Faith and her actions.

Unlike John or Jacob, she is not a blood sibling of the Father but an “adopted one.” As Joseph tells it, when she arrived in Eden’s Gate, he welcomed her and introduced her to a strict moral code without drugs or alcohol (past sins of Faith’s, whose real name is Rachel Jessop). This code supposedly led to her redemption, but as players deal withFaith’s story inFar Cry 5, they learn the truth.

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As players confront Faith inFar Cry 5, they learn that she is scared of Joseph who, according to her, took her when she was 17, drugging, threatening, manipulating, and abusing her into becoming his “sister.” It’s pretty clear that Seed gaslighted her, manipulated her, groomed her, and more. It speaks ill of him then and could be rough to realize, butFar Cry 5left it as a revelation of Joseph Seed’s true character for the player.Far Cry 6takes it many steps further.

Faith Seed in Far Cry 6 Joseph Seed: Collapse DLC

In thisFC6DLC, players must deal with the Voice within their mind and deal with the past they cannot change. Joseph Seed is upset that his family died and he survived, with him coming to terms with this several times—past (Jacob, John, Faith) and future (Ethan). With Ethan, Joseph Seed seeks to protect him from his father’s sins; with Jacob and John, Joseph is repentant and sorry. Each interaction is Joseph trying to redeem himself for his failure to protect them…except for Faith.

Joseph simply does not treat Faith like a real sister or anything like his brothers, in this DLC. He is increasingly belligerent of her, continues to gaslight her (“Faith, you used to be so pleasant, but now you’re making me angry), manipulates her feelings (by making her doubt her own reality), and continuously talks about her “growth” under his hand (grooming). None of this is inconsistent with what she reveals inFar Cry 5, but it’s uncomfortable to experience in first-person, coming fromJoseph Seed, as players take control of him.

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At one point, Joseph receives a vision of what would have happened if his siblings survived the Collapse. Joseph envisions some peaceful, blessed ending for his family and perhaps an odd sexualization of his would-be sister, for her role in the larger scheme. But that’s not what happens; instead,Faith runs out of Blissand begins suffering from withdrawals of the drugs (that Seed makes her use). This causes her mental stability to dwindle to the point that she renounces him, hates him, and isn’t who he claims her to be. Noting his deceased wife, she slaps him and Joseph, in anger, raises his hand against her—if not following through.

It’s enough to really showcase the abusive and manipulative relationship between Joseph and Faith; it was too much more often than not, as players through Joseph’s eyes are forced to witness these acts. And somehow, instead of focusing on largerworldbuilding as Vaas and Pagan Min’s DLCdid, Joseph Seed’s secret ending make this whole situation somehow worse.

Far Cry 6’s Joseph Seed: Collapse DLC Secret Ending Explained

InFar Cry 5, Joseph Seed mentions he lost his wife and child to an accident—“God Taketh.” Much like the loss of hisdaughter impacted Pagan Min’s descent, so too is it implied this is the beginning of Joseph Seed’s. Not only is this trope problematic enough, but it’s more amplified inFC6’s DLC than inFC5even (just a brief mention and a comic reference). He did not hear the “Voice” before this, but it’s said in passing really and players can be easily be forgiven if they forget Joseph was ever married.

The secret ending references Joseph’s final call to his wife before realizing he’s lost her and his child. It’s a painful experience that feels odd in contrast to othersecret endings inFar Cry 6, but the big realization comes with the name of his wife: Faith. It’s implied inFar Cry 5that Rachel Jessop is not the first Faith Seed, and Faith is a sort of moniker for a certain role within Joseph’s “Flock.” But the revelation that he has groomed, at the very least, two women after his deceased wife is incredibly disturbing.

It forces the players to really ask a lot of questions, and the answers cannot be anything good. Is Joseph’s treatment of Faith how he treated his wife, meaning he was not a good person before? Since he is grooming women after his wife, any sexual undertones take on more demented ones. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. There is little evidence inFar Cry 5to prove this, but it’s outright confirmed in this DLC.

Joseph Seed was never meant to be a good guy. He was always a villain. But whereasVaas and Pagan Minare not good guys but good characters nonetheless, there is no redemption for Joseph Seed. That may seem like the overall point of the DLC too, as Joseph’s rebellion against the Voice is ultimately quelled, but in forcing players to witness and thus take part in Joseph Seed’s most intimate atrocities, it all goes too far.

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